This episode is a two-for-one, and that’s because the podcast recently hit its 10-year anniversary and passed one billion downloads. To celebrate, I’ve curated some of the best of the best—some of my favorites—from more than 700 episodes over the last decade. I could not be more excited. The episode features segments from episode #409 “Brené Brown — Striving versus Self-Acceptance, Saving Marriages, and More” and episode #596 “Edward O. Thorp, A Man for All Markets — Beating Blackjack and Roulette, Beating the Stock Market, Spotting Bernie Madoff Early, and Knowing When Enough Is Enough.”
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#739: Brené Brown and Edward O. Thorp
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SHOW NOTES
- [06:06] Notes about this supercombo format.
- [07:09] Enter Brené Brown.
- [07:30] Changing in a lasting, meaningful way.
- [08:03] Is self-accepted complacency possible?
- [10:53] My woo confession about a crux skill.
- [13:06] Narcissism: the shame-based fear of being ordinary.
- [14:06] Efficacy isn’t always efficient.
- [15:48] Pathology as armor that can’t be discarded.
- [16:28] What are you unwilling to feel?
- [17:04] Discarding armor that no longer serves us.
- [21:26] Curiosity as midlife’s superpower.
- [22:53] There’s trauma for all of us.
- [23:33] An 80/20 marriage hack.
- [25:18] Decisions in a family-focused family.
- [27:04] Parenting from compliance to commitment.
- [29:31] Enter Edward O. Thorp.
- [29:54] Edward’s background, and what drew him to apply mathematics to gambling.
- [37:04] Edward’s first blackjack trip to Vegas, reference materials used, and his meeting with Claude Shannon at MIT.
- [40:13] Edward and Claude devised a method to beat roulette using the first wearable computer, according to MIT.
- [42:16] Despite being 89, Edward looks great for his age; he discusses his approach to staying in shape over the years.
- [50:22] Edward explains how he got into finance and investing, and the people he met along the way.
- [59:25] Edward shares what convinced him that Warren Buffett would one day be the richest man in the world after their first meeting.
- [1:03:58] Edward discusses the frameworks he would teach in an investing seminar for modern students, including those without a strong math aptitude.
- [1:08:52] Edward shares lessons learned from investing that are transferable to other areas of life.
- [1:11:02] Edward, a long-term thinker at 89, offers advice for those who struggle to think beyond the short-term.
- [1:15:40] Edward explains how he discovered something suspicious about the Madoff brothers’ business practices 17 years before others caught on.
- [1:24:17] Exploring mental models of externalities, the tragedy of the commons, and fundamental attribution errors.
- [1:33:32] Edward recommends reading and listening material for those who want to enact positive change in the world, politically or evolutionarily.
- [1:38:51] Edward shares which investors, besides Warren Buffett, impress him and why.
- [1:42:52] Edward discusses how he balanced growing a business with personal life and what led him to wind things down.
- [1:47:56] Edward defines independence and shares how he spent his time after winding down the investment side of his life.
- [1:49:30] Edward shares what he’s particularly curious about learning at the moment.
- [1:51:40] Reflecting on a conversation between Joseph Heller and Kurt Vonnegut, and other parting thoughts.
SELECTED LINKS FROM THE EPISODE
Connect with Brené Brown:
Website | Unlocking Us Podcast | Twitter | Facebook | Instagram | LinkedIn
Connect with Edward O. Thorp:
- Beat the Dealer: A Winning Strategy for the Game of Twenty-One by Edward O. Thorp | Amazon
- Beat the Market: A Scientific Stock Market System Edward O. Thorp and Sheen T. Kassouf (PDF) | ResearchGate
- A Man for All Markets: From Las Vegas to Wall Street, How I Beat the Dealer and the Market by Edward O. Thorp | Amazon
- University of California
- How to Play Blackjack | Vegas How To
- Blackjack Basic Strategy Chart by Edward O. Thorp | Chasing the Frog
- Kelly Criterion | Investopedia
- A Brief Journey Inside the IBM 704 | Archival History of Computing at MIT
- National Academy of Sciences
- A Favorable Strategy for Twenty-One by Edward O. Thorp | ResearchGate
- American Mathematical Society
- The Stockpicker’s Burden, and Other Lessons | Barron’s
- How a Math Professor Led a Revolution in Las Vegas | RTD
- How to Play Roulette | Vegas How To
- 10 of the Best Compound Exercises for Muscle and Strength | Openfit
- Aerobics Program for Total Well-Being: Exercise, Diet, and Emotional Balance by Kenneth H. Cooper | Amazon
- Yes, Race Walking Is an Olympic Sport. Here’s How It Works. | Vox
- New Mexico State University
- Stock Warrants vs. Stock Options | Investopedia
- Black-Scholes Model | Investopedia
- Cboe Global Markets
- How Warren Buffett Made Berkshire Hathaway a Winner | Investopedia
- Equity | Investopedia
- Market Efficiency | Investopedia
- Risk | Investopedia
- Preventing the Spread of the Coronavirus | Harvard Health
- The 4% Rule | Investopedia
- Cryogenics | Wikipedia
- Meet the People Who Want to Live — And Keep Their Wealth — Forever | Policy Genius
- Global Management Consulting | McKinsey & Company
- Collar | Investopedia
- The Card Sharp Who Cottoned onto Madoff’s Fraud in 1991 | Forbes
- Madoff Investment Scandal | Wikipedia
- Bear Stearns | Wikipedia
- National Association of Securities Dealers (NASD) | Investopedia
- Why Can’t You Go Faster Than Light? | Fermilab
- Externality | Investopedia
- Svante Arrhenius, the Man Who Foresaw Climate Change | OpenMind
- Tragedy Of The Commons | Investopedia
- Elon Musk Thinks Every Child Should Learn About These 50 Cognitive Biases | Inc.
- Poor Charlie’s Almanack: The Wit and Wisdom of Charles T. Munger | Amazon
- Psychology of Human Misjudgement According to Charlie Munger | LinkedIn
- Fundamental Attribution Error | Ethics Unwrapped
- Thinking, Fast and Slow by Daniel Kahneman | Amazon
- Carbon Tax | Wikipedia
- Moral Foundations of Politics by Ian Shapiro | Coursera
- The Wolf at the Door: The Menace of Economic Insecurity and How to Fight It by Michael J. Graetz and Ian Shapiro | Amazon
- Who Lost Biden’s Agenda? Democrats Offer Competing Theories for Failure of ‘Build Back Better’ | NBC News
- Poll Finds 96 Percent Support Social Security | AARP
- The Changing World Order: Why Nations Succeed and Fail by Ray Dalio | Amazon
- Political Order and Political Decay: From the Industrial Revolution to the Globalization of Democracy by Francis Fukuyama | Amazon
- The End of History and the Last Man by Francis Fukuyama | Amazon
- A Quantitative Investment Management Company | Renaissance Institutional
- The Man Who Solved the Market: How Jim Simons Launched the Quant Revolution by Gregory Zuckerman | Amazon
- Leading Global Market Maker | Citadel Securities
- Princeton Newport Partners | Wikipedia
- Do What You Love, The Money Will Follow: Discovering Your Right Livelihood by Marsha Sinetar | Amazon
- Incerto: Fooled by Randomness, The Black Swan, The Bed of Procrustes, Antifragile, Skin in the Game by Nassim Nicholas Taleb | Amazon
- Catch-22 by Joseph Heller | Amazon
- Kurt Vonnegut on the Secret of Happiness: An Homage to Joseph Heller’s Wisdom | The Marginalian
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